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Crossing a border with an infant of a different citizenship
What documents can I use to return to US if I don't have a passport?Required documents for minor U.S. citizen entering and returning from CanadaChildren with a different surname to parent - UK citizen - UK passport controlBaby with passport from different country than his parentsFlying within Mexico with a baby; will a passport be needed?For a European with dual citizenship, will US immigration link two passports to the same identity?Does my infant child need a US passport to fly to Canada and back?Father travelling with child from UK to Canada without MotherInfant traveling to US with grandparentsUS citizenship for an Australian dual-national while on 90 day visa in America?
I am a French Citizen, and will be traveling with an infant (6 m.o.) who is an American and a French citizen (she has the dual citizenship). I have a French passport, she has an American passport, she does not have any form of French id, but she is registered in my "Livret de famille", and I have a copy of her birth certificate (both French and American) proving that I am the father.
I have two questions:
When I'll be passing the French border with her, should I go to the "Citizen" kiosk (after all, even if she does not have a French passport, she is a French citizen), or the "Visitor" kiosk?
When I'll be passing the US border with her, should I go to the "Citizen" kiosk (even if I'm not a citizen, I am the legal guardian of a citizen), or the "Visitor" kiosk?
She obviously cannot cross the border on her own!
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I am a French Citizen, and will be traveling with an infant (6 m.o.) who is an American and a French citizen (she has the dual citizenship). I have a French passport, she has an American passport, she does not have any form of French id, but she is registered in my "Livret de famille", and I have a copy of her birth certificate (both French and American) proving that I am the father.
I have two questions:
When I'll be passing the French border with her, should I go to the "Citizen" kiosk (after all, even if she does not have a French passport, she is a French citizen), or the "Visitor" kiosk?
When I'll be passing the US border with her, should I go to the "Citizen" kiosk (even if I'm not a citizen, I am the legal guardian of a citizen), or the "Visitor" kiosk?
She obviously cannot cross the border on her own!
legal international-travel us-citizens borders children
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I am a French Citizen, and will be traveling with an infant (6 m.o.) who is an American and a French citizen (she has the dual citizenship). I have a French passport, she has an American passport, she does not have any form of French id, but she is registered in my "Livret de famille", and I have a copy of her birth certificate (both French and American) proving that I am the father.
I have two questions:
When I'll be passing the French border with her, should I go to the "Citizen" kiosk (after all, even if she does not have a French passport, she is a French citizen), or the "Visitor" kiosk?
When I'll be passing the US border with her, should I go to the "Citizen" kiosk (even if I'm not a citizen, I am the legal guardian of a citizen), or the "Visitor" kiosk?
She obviously cannot cross the border on her own!
legal international-travel us-citizens borders children
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I am a French Citizen, and will be traveling with an infant (6 m.o.) who is an American and a French citizen (she has the dual citizenship). I have a French passport, she has an American passport, she does not have any form of French id, but she is registered in my "Livret de famille", and I have a copy of her birth certificate (both French and American) proving that I am the father.
I have two questions:
When I'll be passing the French border with her, should I go to the "Citizen" kiosk (after all, even if she does not have a French passport, she is a French citizen), or the "Visitor" kiosk?
When I'll be passing the US border with her, should I go to the "Citizen" kiosk (even if I'm not a citizen, I am the legal guardian of a citizen), or the "Visitor" kiosk?
She obviously cannot cross the border on her own!
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I would say definitely the Citizen kiosk when entering France.
When entering the US, you will need to be fingerprinted as a visitor, so I would choose the visitor kiosk. There is often somebody managing queues (not a USCIS officer) who you can ask, but they may give you a wrong answer. At least if you end up in the wrong queue you can say "but I was directed to this kiosk".
At least once recently entering the US as a Canadian, I was told off by the officer for using the visitor kiosk. I was supposed to use the citizen one. No signs indicated that, and he agreed, but said I should have used the citizen queue anyway, even though I had no way of knowing.
It probably doesn't matter either way in either case, so if you get it wrong you'll know what to do next time to ensure a smooth entry.
All the desks have fingerprint equipment. The need to be fingerprinted in the US does not prevent someone from using the citizens' queue.
– phoog
4 hours ago
@phoog: You're right of course, I didn't mean to imply that non-citizens must use the visitor queue.
– Greg Hewgill
3 hours ago
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In both cases, you can go to the citizen kiosk. This would be true in France even if you were traveling with a spouse or child who was not an EU or Schengen citizen, since the Schengen Borders Code explicitly states that people who "enjoy freedom of movement" may use the EU/EEA/CH line at the border. It should therefore be unnecessary to prove your daughter's French nationality.
My experience in the US is that US citizens may bring non-US traveling companions with them in the US citizens line even if they are unrelated, but I have been unable to find a publicly available policy governing this. I have encountered some evidence that the practice may vary from one airport to the next; my experience has been mostly at JFK and Newark, while someone here has reported that he had different experiences in Texas airports. You might call the CBP office at your port of entry beforehand and ask them. The non-CBP staff who sort people into the various queues do not seem to have adequate training to deal with such questions.
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I would say definitely the Citizen kiosk when entering France.
When entering the US, you will need to be fingerprinted as a visitor, so I would choose the visitor kiosk. There is often somebody managing queues (not a USCIS officer) who you can ask, but they may give you a wrong answer. At least if you end up in the wrong queue you can say "but I was directed to this kiosk".
At least once recently entering the US as a Canadian, I was told off by the officer for using the visitor kiosk. I was supposed to use the citizen one. No signs indicated that, and he agreed, but said I should have used the citizen queue anyway, even though I had no way of knowing.
It probably doesn't matter either way in either case, so if you get it wrong you'll know what to do next time to ensure a smooth entry.
All the desks have fingerprint equipment. The need to be fingerprinted in the US does not prevent someone from using the citizens' queue.
– phoog
4 hours ago
@phoog: You're right of course, I didn't mean to imply that non-citizens must use the visitor queue.
– Greg Hewgill
3 hours ago
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I would say definitely the Citizen kiosk when entering France.
When entering the US, you will need to be fingerprinted as a visitor, so I would choose the visitor kiosk. There is often somebody managing queues (not a USCIS officer) who you can ask, but they may give you a wrong answer. At least if you end up in the wrong queue you can say "but I was directed to this kiosk".
At least once recently entering the US as a Canadian, I was told off by the officer for using the visitor kiosk. I was supposed to use the citizen one. No signs indicated that, and he agreed, but said I should have used the citizen queue anyway, even though I had no way of knowing.
It probably doesn't matter either way in either case, so if you get it wrong you'll know what to do next time to ensure a smooth entry.
All the desks have fingerprint equipment. The need to be fingerprinted in the US does not prevent someone from using the citizens' queue.
– phoog
4 hours ago
@phoog: You're right of course, I didn't mean to imply that non-citizens must use the visitor queue.
– Greg Hewgill
3 hours ago
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I would say definitely the Citizen kiosk when entering France.
When entering the US, you will need to be fingerprinted as a visitor, so I would choose the visitor kiosk. There is often somebody managing queues (not a USCIS officer) who you can ask, but they may give you a wrong answer. At least if you end up in the wrong queue you can say "but I was directed to this kiosk".
At least once recently entering the US as a Canadian, I was told off by the officer for using the visitor kiosk. I was supposed to use the citizen one. No signs indicated that, and he agreed, but said I should have used the citizen queue anyway, even though I had no way of knowing.
It probably doesn't matter either way in either case, so if you get it wrong you'll know what to do next time to ensure a smooth entry.
I would say definitely the Citizen kiosk when entering France.
When entering the US, you will need to be fingerprinted as a visitor, so I would choose the visitor kiosk. There is often somebody managing queues (not a USCIS officer) who you can ask, but they may give you a wrong answer. At least if you end up in the wrong queue you can say "but I was directed to this kiosk".
At least once recently entering the US as a Canadian, I was told off by the officer for using the visitor kiosk. I was supposed to use the citizen one. No signs indicated that, and he agreed, but said I should have used the citizen queue anyway, even though I had no way of knowing.
It probably doesn't matter either way in either case, so if you get it wrong you'll know what to do next time to ensure a smooth entry.
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All the desks have fingerprint equipment. The need to be fingerprinted in the US does not prevent someone from using the citizens' queue.
– phoog
4 hours ago
@phoog: You're right of course, I didn't mean to imply that non-citizens must use the visitor queue.
– Greg Hewgill
3 hours ago
add a comment |
All the desks have fingerprint equipment. The need to be fingerprinted in the US does not prevent someone from using the citizens' queue.
– phoog
4 hours ago
@phoog: You're right of course, I didn't mean to imply that non-citizens must use the visitor queue.
– Greg Hewgill
3 hours ago
All the desks have fingerprint equipment. The need to be fingerprinted in the US does not prevent someone from using the citizens' queue.
– phoog
4 hours ago
All the desks have fingerprint equipment. The need to be fingerprinted in the US does not prevent someone from using the citizens' queue.
– phoog
4 hours ago
@phoog: You're right of course, I didn't mean to imply that non-citizens must use the visitor queue.
– Greg Hewgill
3 hours ago
@phoog: You're right of course, I didn't mean to imply that non-citizens must use the visitor queue.
– Greg Hewgill
3 hours ago
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In both cases, you can go to the citizen kiosk. This would be true in France even if you were traveling with a spouse or child who was not an EU or Schengen citizen, since the Schengen Borders Code explicitly states that people who "enjoy freedom of movement" may use the EU/EEA/CH line at the border. It should therefore be unnecessary to prove your daughter's French nationality.
My experience in the US is that US citizens may bring non-US traveling companions with them in the US citizens line even if they are unrelated, but I have been unable to find a publicly available policy governing this. I have encountered some evidence that the practice may vary from one airport to the next; my experience has been mostly at JFK and Newark, while someone here has reported that he had different experiences in Texas airports. You might call the CBP office at your port of entry beforehand and ask them. The non-CBP staff who sort people into the various queues do not seem to have adequate training to deal with such questions.
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In both cases, you can go to the citizen kiosk. This would be true in France even if you were traveling with a spouse or child who was not an EU or Schengen citizen, since the Schengen Borders Code explicitly states that people who "enjoy freedom of movement" may use the EU/EEA/CH line at the border. It should therefore be unnecessary to prove your daughter's French nationality.
My experience in the US is that US citizens may bring non-US traveling companions with them in the US citizens line even if they are unrelated, but I have been unable to find a publicly available policy governing this. I have encountered some evidence that the practice may vary from one airport to the next; my experience has been mostly at JFK and Newark, while someone here has reported that he had different experiences in Texas airports. You might call the CBP office at your port of entry beforehand and ask them. The non-CBP staff who sort people into the various queues do not seem to have adequate training to deal with such questions.
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In both cases, you can go to the citizen kiosk. This would be true in France even if you were traveling with a spouse or child who was not an EU or Schengen citizen, since the Schengen Borders Code explicitly states that people who "enjoy freedom of movement" may use the EU/EEA/CH line at the border. It should therefore be unnecessary to prove your daughter's French nationality.
My experience in the US is that US citizens may bring non-US traveling companions with them in the US citizens line even if they are unrelated, but I have been unable to find a publicly available policy governing this. I have encountered some evidence that the practice may vary from one airport to the next; my experience has been mostly at JFK and Newark, while someone here has reported that he had different experiences in Texas airports. You might call the CBP office at your port of entry beforehand and ask them. The non-CBP staff who sort people into the various queues do not seem to have adequate training to deal with such questions.
In both cases, you can go to the citizen kiosk. This would be true in France even if you were traveling with a spouse or child who was not an EU or Schengen citizen, since the Schengen Borders Code explicitly states that people who "enjoy freedom of movement" may use the EU/EEA/CH line at the border. It should therefore be unnecessary to prove your daughter's French nationality.
My experience in the US is that US citizens may bring non-US traveling companions with them in the US citizens line even if they are unrelated, but I have been unable to find a publicly available policy governing this. I have encountered some evidence that the practice may vary from one airport to the next; my experience has been mostly at JFK and Newark, while someone here has reported that he had different experiences in Texas airports. You might call the CBP office at your port of entry beforehand and ask them. The non-CBP staff who sort people into the various queues do not seem to have adequate training to deal with such questions.
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