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You are in a room with three doors. You find out, that behind two of these doors, the darkest pit of hell is waiting for you to make a mistake. The other door, leads to heaven, where you, obviously, want to get.



Each door is guarded by a guard:



  • Michael, who tells truth with 75% chance;

  • Vlad, who lies with 90% chance;

  • John, who lies with 70% chance.

You do not know who is who, or which door he guards. You may ask each guard 2 questions max, but no more than 4 questions in total, because those guys do not like long conversations.



The other thing you have is a magic stone, that can be used only once. This stone makes the event with the lowest chance to occur.



What is the easiest way, which gives you the most chances to go to heaven?




Hint: the solution lies on the surface.











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    Are only yes/no questions allowed?
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    – EKons
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @EKons, you may ask them whatever question you want, but there is no guard, who always tells the truth, which makes it difficult to find the correct door using qs like "What's 1 + 1"
    $endgroup$
    – Andrii Chumakov
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    So, if you ask Michael "Who are you?" without using the stone and he decides to lie (or you use the stone, so he'll lie) could he say either "Vlad" or "John"?
    $endgroup$
    – EKons
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    @EKons, yes, that's what would happen in this case
    $endgroup$
    – Andrii Chumakov
    3 hours ago
















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$begingroup$


You are in a room with three doors. You find out, that behind two of these doors, the darkest pit of hell is waiting for you to make a mistake. The other door, leads to heaven, where you, obviously, want to get.



Each door is guarded by a guard:



  • Michael, who tells truth with 75% chance;

  • Vlad, who lies with 90% chance;

  • John, who lies with 70% chance.

You do not know who is who, or which door he guards. You may ask each guard 2 questions max, but no more than 4 questions in total, because those guys do not like long conversations.



The other thing you have is a magic stone, that can be used only once. This stone makes the event with the lowest chance to occur.



What is the easiest way, which gives you the most chances to go to heaven?




Hint: the solution lies on the surface.











share|improve this question









New contributor




Andrii Chumakov is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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  • $begingroup$
    Are only yes/no questions allowed?
    $endgroup$
    – EKons
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @EKons, you may ask them whatever question you want, but there is no guard, who always tells the truth, which makes it difficult to find the correct door using qs like "What's 1 + 1"
    $endgroup$
    – Andrii Chumakov
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    So, if you ask Michael "Who are you?" without using the stone and he decides to lie (or you use the stone, so he'll lie) could he say either "Vlad" or "John"?
    $endgroup$
    – EKons
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    @EKons, yes, that's what would happen in this case
    $endgroup$
    – Andrii Chumakov
    3 hours ago














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$begingroup$


You are in a room with three doors. You find out, that behind two of these doors, the darkest pit of hell is waiting for you to make a mistake. The other door, leads to heaven, where you, obviously, want to get.



Each door is guarded by a guard:



  • Michael, who tells truth with 75% chance;

  • Vlad, who lies with 90% chance;

  • John, who lies with 70% chance.

You do not know who is who, or which door he guards. You may ask each guard 2 questions max, but no more than 4 questions in total, because those guys do not like long conversations.



The other thing you have is a magic stone, that can be used only once. This stone makes the event with the lowest chance to occur.



What is the easiest way, which gives you the most chances to go to heaven?




Hint: the solution lies on the surface.











share|improve this question









New contributor




Andrii Chumakov is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$




You are in a room with three doors. You find out, that behind two of these doors, the darkest pit of hell is waiting for you to make a mistake. The other door, leads to heaven, where you, obviously, want to get.



Each door is guarded by a guard:



  • Michael, who tells truth with 75% chance;

  • Vlad, who lies with 90% chance;

  • John, who lies with 70% chance.

You do not know who is who, or which door he guards. You may ask each guard 2 questions max, but no more than 4 questions in total, because those guys do not like long conversations.



The other thing you have is a magic stone, that can be used only once. This stone makes the event with the lowest chance to occur.



What is the easiest way, which gives you the most chances to go to heaven?




Hint: the solution lies on the surface.








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  • $begingroup$
    Are only yes/no questions allowed?
    $endgroup$
    – EKons
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @EKons, you may ask them whatever question you want, but there is no guard, who always tells the truth, which makes it difficult to find the correct door using qs like "What's 1 + 1"
    $endgroup$
    – Andrii Chumakov
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    So, if you ask Michael "Who are you?" without using the stone and he decides to lie (or you use the stone, so he'll lie) could he say either "Vlad" or "John"?
    $endgroup$
    – EKons
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    @EKons, yes, that's what would happen in this case
    $endgroup$
    – Andrii Chumakov
    3 hours ago

















  • $begingroup$
    Are only yes/no questions allowed?
    $endgroup$
    – EKons
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @EKons, you may ask them whatever question you want, but there is no guard, who always tells the truth, which makes it difficult to find the correct door using qs like "What's 1 + 1"
    $endgroup$
    – Andrii Chumakov
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    So, if you ask Michael "Who are you?" without using the stone and he decides to lie (or you use the stone, so he'll lie) could he say either "Vlad" or "John"?
    $endgroup$
    – EKons
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    @EKons, yes, that's what would happen in this case
    $endgroup$
    – Andrii Chumakov
    3 hours ago
















$begingroup$
Are only yes/no questions allowed?
$endgroup$
– EKons
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
Are only yes/no questions allowed?
$endgroup$
– EKons
3 hours ago












$begingroup$
@EKons, you may ask them whatever question you want, but there is no guard, who always tells the truth, which makes it difficult to find the correct door using qs like "What's 1 + 1"
$endgroup$
– Andrii Chumakov
3 hours ago





$begingroup$
@EKons, you may ask them whatever question you want, but there is no guard, who always tells the truth, which makes it difficult to find the correct door using qs like "What's 1 + 1"
$endgroup$
– Andrii Chumakov
3 hours ago













$begingroup$
So, if you ask Michael "Who are you?" without using the stone and he decides to lie (or you use the stone, so he'll lie) could he say either "Vlad" or "John"?
$endgroup$
– EKons
3 hours ago





$begingroup$
So, if you ask Michael "Who are you?" without using the stone and he decides to lie (or you use the stone, so he'll lie) could he say either "Vlad" or "John"?
$endgroup$
– EKons
3 hours ago













$begingroup$
@EKons, yes, that's what would happen in this case
$endgroup$
– Andrii Chumakov
3 hours ago





$begingroup$
@EKons, yes, that's what would happen in this case
$endgroup$
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3 hours ago











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Use the magic stone, then try one of the doors. It's less likely to get the right door (1/3) than one of the wrong ones (2/3), so you'll end up in the right place







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    I'd go with this:




    Go to any guard, use the magic stone, and ask the question:

    Which of the remaining two guards will lie?




    If it is Michel




    Since he will lie, so he'll say
    "None"




    If it is Vlad




    He will point to one guard, who will be John, so the other would be Michel




    If it is John




    He will point to one guard, who will be Vlad, so the other would be Michel




    So




    I'll identify Michel who will say the truth 75% of times, and ask him the second question
    "Which door leads to heaven"

    It is a 75% chance that he'll tell the truth





    This isn't an optimal solution, so work is still in progress






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          No questions are required!




          Use the magic stone, then try one of the doors. It's less likely to get the right door (1/3) than one of the wrong ones (2/3), so you'll end up in the right place








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              I'd go with this:




              Go to any guard, use the magic stone, and ask the question:

              Which of the remaining two guards will lie?




              If it is Michel




              Since he will lie, so he'll say
              "None"




              If it is Vlad




              He will point to one guard, who will be John, so the other would be Michel




              If it is John




              He will point to one guard, who will be Vlad, so the other would be Michel




              So




              I'll identify Michel who will say the truth 75% of times, and ask him the second question
              "Which door leads to heaven"

              It is a 75% chance that he'll tell the truth





              This isn't an optimal solution, so work is still in progress






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                $begingroup$

                I'd go with this:




                Go to any guard, use the magic stone, and ask the question:

                Which of the remaining two guards will lie?




                If it is Michel




                Since he will lie, so he'll say
                "None"




                If it is Vlad




                He will point to one guard, who will be John, so the other would be Michel




                If it is John




                He will point to one guard, who will be Vlad, so the other would be Michel




                So




                I'll identify Michel who will say the truth 75% of times, and ask him the second question
                "Which door leads to heaven"

                It is a 75% chance that he'll tell the truth





                This isn't an optimal solution, so work is still in progress






                share|improve this answer









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                  I'd go with this:




                  Go to any guard, use the magic stone, and ask the question:

                  Which of the remaining two guards will lie?




                  If it is Michel




                  Since he will lie, so he'll say
                  "None"




                  If it is Vlad




                  He will point to one guard, who will be John, so the other would be Michel




                  If it is John




                  He will point to one guard, who will be Vlad, so the other would be Michel




                  So




                  I'll identify Michel who will say the truth 75% of times, and ask him the second question
                  "Which door leads to heaven"

                  It is a 75% chance that he'll tell the truth





                  This isn't an optimal solution, so work is still in progress






                  share|improve this answer









                  $endgroup$



                  I'd go with this:




                  Go to any guard, use the magic stone, and ask the question:

                  Which of the remaining two guards will lie?




                  If it is Michel




                  Since he will lie, so he'll say
                  "None"




                  If it is Vlad




                  He will point to one guard, who will be John, so the other would be Michel




                  If it is John




                  He will point to one guard, who will be Vlad, so the other would be Michel




                  So




                  I'll identify Michel who will say the truth 75% of times, and ask him the second question
                  "Which door leads to heaven"

                  It is a 75% chance that he'll tell the truth





                  This isn't an optimal solution, so work is still in progress







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