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Has any country ever had 2 former presidents in jail simultaneously?


Any precedents of U.S. presidents having served in other government roles after the ends of their terms?Has any US President served in a government position with a foreign nation before or after their presidency?At what point were there the most current and former US Presidents alive?Did any European ever witness a major Inca religious festival?Are there any images within the time period of contemporary history (1945 to the present) that had different interpretations by historians?Given the direct involvement of tech companies has there been any strikes over tech companies’ participation in surveillance culture?













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I suspect that today, this achievement has been granted for the first time to Brazil, with the arresting of Michel Temer, and considering that Lula da Silva is still under arrest.



It is normally big news if a former president is incarcerated, so I'd be surprised to know this occurred twice somewhere else.










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    and Rio de Janeiro State has 5 former governors in jail, house arrest, or who just recently got out of prison. (Garotinho hubby & wife, Moreira Franco, Sergio Cabral, Luiz Pezão).

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    Illinois managed to do that with two former Governors.

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  • @LarsTech At least 2. At one point, I seem to recall that they had 4 out of 5 consecutive Governors go to prison after leaving (or being expelled from) office.

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I suspect that today, this achievement has been granted for the first time to Brazil, with the arresting of Michel Temer, and considering that Lula da Silva is still under arrest.



It is normally big news if a former president is incarcerated, so I'd be surprised to know this occurred twice somewhere else.










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    and Rio de Janeiro State has 5 former governors in jail, house arrest, or who just recently got out of prison. (Garotinho hubby & wife, Moreira Franco, Sergio Cabral, Luiz Pezão).

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  • @StevenBurnap : good suggestion

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    Illinois managed to do that with two former Governors.

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I suspect that today, this achievement has been granted for the first time to Brazil, with the arresting of Michel Temer, and considering that Lula da Silva is still under arrest.



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I suspect that today, this achievement has been granted for the first time to Brazil, with the arresting of Michel Temer, and considering that Lula da Silva is still under arrest.



It is normally big news if a former president is incarcerated, so I'd be surprised to know this occurred twice somewhere else.







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    and Rio de Janeiro State has 5 former governors in jail, house arrest, or who just recently got out of prison. (Garotinho hubby & wife, Moreira Franco, Sergio Cabral, Luiz Pezão).

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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this question does not seem to be relevant to history (or to any other science).

    – Alex
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  • @StevenBurnap : good suggestion

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    Illinois managed to do that with two former Governors.

    – LarsTech
    1 hour ago











  • @LarsTech At least 2. At one point, I seem to recall that they had 4 out of 5 consecutive Governors go to prison after leaving (or being expelled from) office.

    – reirab
    56 mins ago












  • 2





    and Rio de Janeiro State has 5 former governors in jail, house arrest, or who just recently got out of prison. (Garotinho hubby & wife, Moreira Franco, Sergio Cabral, Luiz Pezão).

    – Luiz
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this question does not seem to be relevant to history (or to any other science).

    – Alex
    3 hours ago











  • @StevenBurnap : good suggestion

    – Mefitico
    2 hours ago






  • 1





    Illinois managed to do that with two former Governors.

    – LarsTech
    1 hour ago











  • @LarsTech At least 2. At one point, I seem to recall that they had 4 out of 5 consecutive Governors go to prison after leaving (or being expelled from) office.

    – reirab
    56 mins ago







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and Rio de Janeiro State has 5 former governors in jail, house arrest, or who just recently got out of prison. (Garotinho hubby & wife, Moreira Franco, Sergio Cabral, Luiz Pezão).

– Luiz
3 hours ago





and Rio de Janeiro State has 5 former governors in jail, house arrest, or who just recently got out of prison. (Garotinho hubby & wife, Moreira Franco, Sergio Cabral, Luiz Pezão).

– Luiz
3 hours ago




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1





I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this question does not seem to be relevant to history (or to any other science).

– Alex
3 hours ago





I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this question does not seem to be relevant to history (or to any other science).

– Alex
3 hours ago













@StevenBurnap : good suggestion

– Mefitico
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@StevenBurnap : good suggestion

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2 hours ago




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Illinois managed to do that with two former Governors.

– LarsTech
1 hour ago





Illinois managed to do that with two former Governors.

– LarsTech
1 hour ago













@LarsTech At least 2. At one point, I seem to recall that they had 4 out of 5 consecutive Governors go to prison after leaving (or being expelled from) office.

– reirab
56 mins ago





@LarsTech At least 2. At one point, I seem to recall that they had 4 out of 5 consecutive Governors go to prison after leaving (or being expelled from) office.

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Peru has an interesting case of former presidents being incarcerated or in the eye of justice.




  • Alberto Fujimori in right now in prison, for human right violations, 25 years of conviction.


  • Ollanta Humala is in preventive reclusion, investigated for corruption.


  • Alejandro Toledo, currently fugitive of justice for corruption as well. Case Oderbrecht (link in Spanish), that started in Brasil.


  • Alan García, twice president, twice investigated for corruption. Lately due to case Oderbrecht as well.

Summary, if you have been a Peruvian president, you are probably under investigation by the justice.






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    Alejandro Toledo spent a night in a California jail in March 2019, so that would count I guess. apnews.com/d60d5e33803c4c959f03e0e47e711ee6

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  • @Mefitico if you do not want to consider "preventive reclusion" then your reference to Brazil is a bit misleading since, from what I gather from the news, Temer is currently in preventive reclusion (so far he has not been condemned).

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Quite a few candidates if:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_regimes_who_were_later_imprisoned



... [sort by country] is anything to go by...



  • Andalusia (technically an autonomous community in Spain) appears to have two former presidents sitting in jail since 2016.


  • Argentina has a whopping 8 presidents that sat in jail, including 2 from 2007 onward.


  • Bangladesh had 5 presidents who went to jail, of which two were behind bars in 1975.


  • Bosnia and Herzegovina had 2 presidents sitting in jail from 2006 to 2012.


  • Bulgaria had as many as 3 former prime ministers behind bars at the same time in 1944.


  • Comoros has 3 presidents and prime ministers behind bars at the time of writing this.


  • Costa Rica had 2 presidents behind bars from 2004 to 2012.


I'll stop at C, since the list is long, with a few honorable mentions:



  • Egypt appears to have had 5 former presidents in jail in 2013.


  • Guatemala 3 early in 2018


  • Hungary 4 in 1945


  • Iraq 4 in 2004


  • Japan 5 in 1945


  • Libya 4 in 2011


  • Pakistan 4 + 2 arrest warrants as I write this


The point is Brazil is not an exception.



One caveat: read the list with a fistful of salt, because it lists former French President Sarkozy as sitting behind bars since 2018, whereas he was only put in police custody for a day that year as he was charged with bribery and illegal campaign contributions. (He might sit in jail some day in the future, but the point here is that you may want to double check the data.) Also, Gaston Flosse of French Polynesia is listed twice.






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    Take the list with lots of salt. Neither Arthur Más nor Carles Puigdemont have ever been imprisoned, and considering regional governments as "regimes" is to much of an stretch.

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Illinois...George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich.



Not quite a country, admittedly.



Maryland came close to having Spiro Agnew and Marvin Mandel in jail at the same time, but Agnew managed to avoid prison.






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    Peru has an interesting case of former presidents being incarcerated or in the eye of justice.




    • Alberto Fujimori in right now in prison, for human right violations, 25 years of conviction.


    • Ollanta Humala is in preventive reclusion, investigated for corruption.


    • Alejandro Toledo, currently fugitive of justice for corruption as well. Case Oderbrecht (link in Spanish), that started in Brasil.


    • Alan García, twice president, twice investigated for corruption. Lately due to case Oderbrecht as well.

    Summary, if you have been a Peruvian president, you are probably under investigation by the justice.






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      The question asks about "jail", so "preventive reclusion" is quite close but not there. Then again, Peru might be a serious contender for the first triple.

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      Alejandro Toledo spent a night in a California jail in March 2019, so that would count I guess. apnews.com/d60d5e33803c4c959f03e0e47e711ee6

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    • @Mefitico if you do not want to consider "preventive reclusion" then your reference to Brazil is a bit misleading since, from what I gather from the news, Temer is currently in preventive reclusion (so far he has not been condemned).

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    Peru has an interesting case of former presidents being incarcerated or in the eye of justice.




    • Alberto Fujimori in right now in prison, for human right violations, 25 years of conviction.


    • Ollanta Humala is in preventive reclusion, investigated for corruption.


    • Alejandro Toledo, currently fugitive of justice for corruption as well. Case Oderbrecht (link in Spanish), that started in Brasil.


    • Alan García, twice president, twice investigated for corruption. Lately due to case Oderbrecht as well.

    Summary, if you have been a Peruvian president, you are probably under investigation by the justice.






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      The question asks about "jail", so "preventive reclusion" is quite close but not there. Then again, Peru might be a serious contender for the first triple.

      – Mefitico
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      Alejandro Toledo spent a night in a California jail in March 2019, so that would count I guess. apnews.com/d60d5e33803c4c959f03e0e47e711ee6

      – ajd
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    • @Mefitico if you do not want to consider "preventive reclusion" then your reference to Brazil is a bit misleading since, from what I gather from the news, Temer is currently in preventive reclusion (so far he has not been condemned).

      – SJuan76
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    Peru has an interesting case of former presidents being incarcerated or in the eye of justice.




    • Alberto Fujimori in right now in prison, for human right violations, 25 years of conviction.


    • Ollanta Humala is in preventive reclusion, investigated for corruption.


    • Alejandro Toledo, currently fugitive of justice for corruption as well. Case Oderbrecht (link in Spanish), that started in Brasil.


    • Alan García, twice president, twice investigated for corruption. Lately due to case Oderbrecht as well.

    Summary, if you have been a Peruvian president, you are probably under investigation by the justice.






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    Peru has an interesting case of former presidents being incarcerated or in the eye of justice.




    • Alberto Fujimori in right now in prison, for human right violations, 25 years of conviction.


    • Ollanta Humala is in preventive reclusion, investigated for corruption.


    • Alejandro Toledo, currently fugitive of justice for corruption as well. Case Oderbrecht (link in Spanish), that started in Brasil.


    • Alan García, twice president, twice investigated for corruption. Lately due to case Oderbrecht as well.

    Summary, if you have been a Peruvian president, you are probably under investigation by the justice.







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      The question asks about "jail", so "preventive reclusion" is quite close but not there. Then again, Peru might be a serious contender for the first triple.

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      Alejandro Toledo spent a night in a California jail in March 2019, so that would count I guess. apnews.com/d60d5e33803c4c959f03e0e47e711ee6

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    • @Mefitico if you do not want to consider "preventive reclusion" then your reference to Brazil is a bit misleading since, from what I gather from the news, Temer is currently in preventive reclusion (so far he has not been condemned).

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      The question asks about "jail", so "preventive reclusion" is quite close but not there. Then again, Peru might be a serious contender for the first triple.

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      Alejandro Toledo spent a night in a California jail in March 2019, so that would count I guess. apnews.com/d60d5e33803c4c959f03e0e47e711ee6

      – ajd
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    • @Mefitico if you do not want to consider "preventive reclusion" then your reference to Brazil is a bit misleading since, from what I gather from the news, Temer is currently in preventive reclusion (so far he has not been condemned).

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    The question asks about "jail", so "preventive reclusion" is quite close but not there. Then again, Peru might be a serious contender for the first triple.

    – Mefitico
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    The question asks about "jail", so "preventive reclusion" is quite close but not there. Then again, Peru might be a serious contender for the first triple.

    – Mefitico
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    Alejandro Toledo spent a night in a California jail in March 2019, so that would count I guess. apnews.com/d60d5e33803c4c959f03e0e47e711ee6

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    Alejandro Toledo spent a night in a California jail in March 2019, so that would count I guess. apnews.com/d60d5e33803c4c959f03e0e47e711ee6

    – ajd
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    @Mefitico if you do not want to consider "preventive reclusion" then your reference to Brazil is a bit misleading since, from what I gather from the news, Temer is currently in preventive reclusion (so far he has not been condemned).

    – SJuan76
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    @Mefitico if you do not want to consider "preventive reclusion" then your reference to Brazil is a bit misleading since, from what I gather from the news, Temer is currently in preventive reclusion (so far he has not been condemned).

    – SJuan76
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    Quite a few candidates if:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_regimes_who_were_later_imprisoned



    ... [sort by country] is anything to go by...



    • Andalusia (technically an autonomous community in Spain) appears to have two former presidents sitting in jail since 2016.


    • Argentina has a whopping 8 presidents that sat in jail, including 2 from 2007 onward.


    • Bangladesh had 5 presidents who went to jail, of which two were behind bars in 1975.


    • Bosnia and Herzegovina had 2 presidents sitting in jail from 2006 to 2012.


    • Bulgaria had as many as 3 former prime ministers behind bars at the same time in 1944.


    • Comoros has 3 presidents and prime ministers behind bars at the time of writing this.


    • Costa Rica had 2 presidents behind bars from 2004 to 2012.


    I'll stop at C, since the list is long, with a few honorable mentions:



    • Egypt appears to have had 5 former presidents in jail in 2013.


    • Guatemala 3 early in 2018


    • Hungary 4 in 1945


    • Iraq 4 in 2004


    • Japan 5 in 1945


    • Libya 4 in 2011


    • Pakistan 4 + 2 arrest warrants as I write this


    The point is Brazil is not an exception.



    One caveat: read the list with a fistful of salt, because it lists former French President Sarkozy as sitting behind bars since 2018, whereas he was only put in police custody for a day that year as he was charged with bribery and illegal campaign contributions. (He might sit in jail some day in the future, but the point here is that you may want to double check the data.) Also, Gaston Flosse of French Polynesia is listed twice.






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      Take the list with lots of salt. Neither Arthur Más nor Carles Puigdemont have ever been imprisoned, and considering regional governments as "regimes" is to much of an stretch.

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    Quite a few candidates if:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_regimes_who_were_later_imprisoned



    ... [sort by country] is anything to go by...



    • Andalusia (technically an autonomous community in Spain) appears to have two former presidents sitting in jail since 2016.


    • Argentina has a whopping 8 presidents that sat in jail, including 2 from 2007 onward.


    • Bangladesh had 5 presidents who went to jail, of which two were behind bars in 1975.


    • Bosnia and Herzegovina had 2 presidents sitting in jail from 2006 to 2012.


    • Bulgaria had as many as 3 former prime ministers behind bars at the same time in 1944.


    • Comoros has 3 presidents and prime ministers behind bars at the time of writing this.


    • Costa Rica had 2 presidents behind bars from 2004 to 2012.


    I'll stop at C, since the list is long, with a few honorable mentions:



    • Egypt appears to have had 5 former presidents in jail in 2013.


    • Guatemala 3 early in 2018


    • Hungary 4 in 1945


    • Iraq 4 in 2004


    • Japan 5 in 1945


    • Libya 4 in 2011


    • Pakistan 4 + 2 arrest warrants as I write this


    The point is Brazil is not an exception.



    One caveat: read the list with a fistful of salt, because it lists former French President Sarkozy as sitting behind bars since 2018, whereas he was only put in police custody for a day that year as he was charged with bribery and illegal campaign contributions. (He might sit in jail some day in the future, but the point here is that you may want to double check the data.) Also, Gaston Flosse of French Polynesia is listed twice.






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      Take the list with lots of salt. Neither Arthur Más nor Carles Puigdemont have ever been imprisoned, and considering regional governments as "regimes" is to much of an stretch.

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    Quite a few candidates if:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_regimes_who_were_later_imprisoned



    ... [sort by country] is anything to go by...



    • Andalusia (technically an autonomous community in Spain) appears to have two former presidents sitting in jail since 2016.


    • Argentina has a whopping 8 presidents that sat in jail, including 2 from 2007 onward.


    • Bangladesh had 5 presidents who went to jail, of which two were behind bars in 1975.


    • Bosnia and Herzegovina had 2 presidents sitting in jail from 2006 to 2012.


    • Bulgaria had as many as 3 former prime ministers behind bars at the same time in 1944.


    • Comoros has 3 presidents and prime ministers behind bars at the time of writing this.


    • Costa Rica had 2 presidents behind bars from 2004 to 2012.


    I'll stop at C, since the list is long, with a few honorable mentions:



    • Egypt appears to have had 5 former presidents in jail in 2013.


    • Guatemala 3 early in 2018


    • Hungary 4 in 1945


    • Iraq 4 in 2004


    • Japan 5 in 1945


    • Libya 4 in 2011


    • Pakistan 4 + 2 arrest warrants as I write this


    The point is Brazil is not an exception.



    One caveat: read the list with a fistful of salt, because it lists former French President Sarkozy as sitting behind bars since 2018, whereas he was only put in police custody for a day that year as he was charged with bribery and illegal campaign contributions. (He might sit in jail some day in the future, but the point here is that you may want to double check the data.) Also, Gaston Flosse of French Polynesia is listed twice.






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    Quite a few candidates if:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_regimes_who_were_later_imprisoned



    ... [sort by country] is anything to go by...



    • Andalusia (technically an autonomous community in Spain) appears to have two former presidents sitting in jail since 2016.


    • Argentina has a whopping 8 presidents that sat in jail, including 2 from 2007 onward.


    • Bangladesh had 5 presidents who went to jail, of which two were behind bars in 1975.


    • Bosnia and Herzegovina had 2 presidents sitting in jail from 2006 to 2012.


    • Bulgaria had as many as 3 former prime ministers behind bars at the same time in 1944.


    • Comoros has 3 presidents and prime ministers behind bars at the time of writing this.


    • Costa Rica had 2 presidents behind bars from 2004 to 2012.


    I'll stop at C, since the list is long, with a few honorable mentions:



    • Egypt appears to have had 5 former presidents in jail in 2013.


    • Guatemala 3 early in 2018


    • Hungary 4 in 1945


    • Iraq 4 in 2004


    • Japan 5 in 1945


    • Libya 4 in 2011


    • Pakistan 4 + 2 arrest warrants as I write this


    The point is Brazil is not an exception.



    One caveat: read the list with a fistful of salt, because it lists former French President Sarkozy as sitting behind bars since 2018, whereas he was only put in police custody for a day that year as he was charged with bribery and illegal campaign contributions. (He might sit in jail some day in the future, but the point here is that you may want to double check the data.) Also, Gaston Flosse of French Polynesia is listed twice.







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      Take the list with lots of salt. Neither Arthur Más nor Carles Puigdemont have ever been imprisoned, and considering regional governments as "regimes" is to much of an stretch.

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    Illinois...George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich.



    Not quite a country, admittedly.



    Maryland came close to having Spiro Agnew and Marvin Mandel in jail at the same time, but Agnew managed to avoid prison.






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      Illinois...George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich.



      Not quite a country, admittedly.



      Maryland came close to having Spiro Agnew and Marvin Mandel in jail at the same time, but Agnew managed to avoid prison.






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        Illinois...George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich.



        Not quite a country, admittedly.



        Maryland came close to having Spiro Agnew and Marvin Mandel in jail at the same time, but Agnew managed to avoid prison.






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        Illinois...George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich.



        Not quite a country, admittedly.



        Maryland came close to having Spiro Agnew and Marvin Mandel in jail at the same time, but Agnew managed to avoid prison.







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