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Subset counting for even numbers
Get the number of subset.How many non empty subsets of 1, 2, …, n satisfy that the sum of their elements is even?how many $7$ digit numbers can be formed using $1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0$Prove that all numbers in a sequence are equalcantor diagonal argument for even numbersSets Whose Elements Sum to an Even IntegerCounting - $9$ digit number consisting of $5$ odd and $4$ even digits, not sure how to do the 2nd stepSum of elements in a subsetNumber of ways to color the numbers from 1 to 9 choosing from 3 colors for each one, such that no two numbers whose sum is odd are the same colorChoosing three distinct numbers giving even sum.
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Let $S$ be a set of twelve integers $1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12$. How many subsets of $S$ are there such that the sum of all the elements in the subset is an odd number?
Here's what I tried. There are $2^12=4096$ ways to create a subset from $S$. I tried to find the number of what I call "even" subsets, or subsets whose elements only summed to even numbers. I divided $S$ into two subsets, one for all even numbers, and one for all odd numbers, knowing that all the subsets of those two subsets must have an even sum. Counting the sum and subtracting from $4096$, I get $2^12-2^6-2^6=3968$. However, now I realize that there are more ways to create "even" subsets, for example, two odds, four evens. I am now stuck. Can someone help?
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Let $S$ be a set of twelve integers $1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12$. How many subsets of $S$ are there such that the sum of all the elements in the subset is an odd number?
Here's what I tried. There are $2^12=4096$ ways to create a subset from $S$. I tried to find the number of what I call "even" subsets, or subsets whose elements only summed to even numbers. I divided $S$ into two subsets, one for all even numbers, and one for all odd numbers, knowing that all the subsets of those two subsets must have an even sum. Counting the sum and subtracting from $4096$, I get $2^12-2^6-2^6=3968$. However, now I realize that there are more ways to create "even" subsets, for example, two odds, four evens. I am now stuck. Can someone help?
combinatorics number-theory elementary-set-theory
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Let $S$ be a set of twelve integers $1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12$. How many subsets of $S$ are there such that the sum of all the elements in the subset is an odd number?
Here's what I tried. There are $2^12=4096$ ways to create a subset from $S$. I tried to find the number of what I call "even" subsets, or subsets whose elements only summed to even numbers. I divided $S$ into two subsets, one for all even numbers, and one for all odd numbers, knowing that all the subsets of those two subsets must have an even sum. Counting the sum and subtracting from $4096$, I get $2^12-2^6-2^6=3968$. However, now I realize that there are more ways to create "even" subsets, for example, two odds, four evens. I am now stuck. Can someone help?
combinatorics number-theory elementary-set-theory
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Let $S$ be a set of twelve integers $1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12$. How many subsets of $S$ are there such that the sum of all the elements in the subset is an odd number?
Here's what I tried. There are $2^12=4096$ ways to create a subset from $S$. I tried to find the number of what I call "even" subsets, or subsets whose elements only summed to even numbers. I divided $S$ into two subsets, one for all even numbers, and one for all odd numbers, knowing that all the subsets of those two subsets must have an even sum. Counting the sum and subtracting from $4096$, I get $2^12-2^6-2^6=3968$. However, now I realize that there are more ways to create "even" subsets, for example, two odds, four evens. I am now stuck. Can someone help?
combinatorics number-theory elementary-set-theory
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Split $S$ into the set of even numbers of $S$ and the set of odd numbers of $S$, what I'll call $E = 2,4,6,8,10,12$ and $O = 1,3,5,7,9,11$
Form your arbitrary subset of $S$ where the sum of elements is odd by selecting any subset of $E$ and unioning that with with any subset of an odd number of elements from $O$.
Apply the rule of product and conclude.
There are $2^6$ possible subsets of $E$ and there are $binom61+binom63+binom65 = 2^5$ subsets with an odd number of elements of $O$
Alternate explanation. First choose any subset of $2,3,4,dots,12$. If the sum is currently even, then include also $1$ with it. If the sum is currently odd, then don't include $1$. Convince yourself that you cover all cases exactly once each.
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That gets me $2^11=2048$ subsets. Thank you so much for your method!
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Hint:
If we sum up an odd number of odd integers, and however many even ones we wish with them, then the sum is always odd.
This can be justified by considering arithmetic and congruences modulo $2$ if you want to formally see this, but I feel like it's relatively self-evident just by trying a few examples.
Thus, you need to find the number of subsets of $S$ which contain an odd number of odd integers in them.
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The number of such subsets is half the number of all subsets of $S$, i.e. $frac12cdot2^12=2^11$.
Let $P_e(S)$ (respectively, $P_o(S)$) be the sets of subsets of $S$, where the sum of the elements is even (respectively, odd). Consider a map $f:P_e(S)to P_o(S)$ defined as follows: for a subset $Asubseteq S$ such that $Ain P_e(S)$, let
$$
f(A)=
begincases
Asetminus1, &text if 1in A,\
Acup1, &text if 1notin A.
endcases
$$
In other words, if $1$ is in $A$, delete it; if $1$ is not in $A$, adjoin it.
This changes the parity of the sum of elements of $A$, so $f(A)in P_o(S)$. Moveover, $f$ is a bijection since $f^-1=f$ (i.e. to undo $f$, apply $f$ again). Therefore, $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$ have the same number of elements. But every subset of $S$ belongs to exactly one of $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$, so each of $P_e(S)$ and $P_o(S)$ has half the total number of subsets of $S$, i.e. $2^=2^11$.
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The credit for this strategy goes entirely to JMoravitz.
What I didn't realize earlier is that as long as there are an odd number of odd numbers in our subset, then we can get an odd numbers, no matter how many even numbers are in the subset. I will make the even and odd subsets separately to be $E=2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12$ and $O=1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11$. There are $6choose1 + 6choose3 + 6choose5=2^5=32$ ways to pick odd numbers. We can now pick as many evens as we wish, so we have $2^6$ ways to pick a subset. The union of the subset will just be the product of the two values, so we have $2^5 times 2^6=2^11=boxed2048$ subsets.
Thank you all so much for the help!
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Split $S$ into the set of even numbers of $S$ and the set of odd numbers of $S$, what I'll call $E = 2,4,6,8,10,12$ and $O = 1,3,5,7,9,11$
Form your arbitrary subset of $S$ where the sum of elements is odd by selecting any subset of $E$ and unioning that with with any subset of an odd number of elements from $O$.
Apply the rule of product and conclude.
There are $2^6$ possible subsets of $E$ and there are $binom61+binom63+binom65 = 2^5$ subsets with an odd number of elements of $O$
Alternate explanation. First choose any subset of $2,3,4,dots,12$. If the sum is currently even, then include also $1$ with it. If the sum is currently odd, then don't include $1$. Convince yourself that you cover all cases exactly once each.
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That gets me $2^11=2048$ subsets. Thank you so much for your method!
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– A R
1 hour ago
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Split $S$ into the set of even numbers of $S$ and the set of odd numbers of $S$, what I'll call $E = 2,4,6,8,10,12$ and $O = 1,3,5,7,9,11$
Form your arbitrary subset of $S$ where the sum of elements is odd by selecting any subset of $E$ and unioning that with with any subset of an odd number of elements from $O$.
Apply the rule of product and conclude.
There are $2^6$ possible subsets of $E$ and there are $binom61+binom63+binom65 = 2^5$ subsets with an odd number of elements of $O$
Alternate explanation. First choose any subset of $2,3,4,dots,12$. If the sum is currently even, then include also $1$ with it. If the sum is currently odd, then don't include $1$. Convince yourself that you cover all cases exactly once each.
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That gets me $2^11=2048$ subsets. Thank you so much for your method!
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– A R
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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Split $S$ into the set of even numbers of $S$ and the set of odd numbers of $S$, what I'll call $E = 2,4,6,8,10,12$ and $O = 1,3,5,7,9,11$
Form your arbitrary subset of $S$ where the sum of elements is odd by selecting any subset of $E$ and unioning that with with any subset of an odd number of elements from $O$.
Apply the rule of product and conclude.
There are $2^6$ possible subsets of $E$ and there are $binom61+binom63+binom65 = 2^5$ subsets with an odd number of elements of $O$
Alternate explanation. First choose any subset of $2,3,4,dots,12$. If the sum is currently even, then include also $1$ with it. If the sum is currently odd, then don't include $1$. Convince yourself that you cover all cases exactly once each.
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Split $S$ into the set of even numbers of $S$ and the set of odd numbers of $S$, what I'll call $E = 2,4,6,8,10,12$ and $O = 1,3,5,7,9,11$
Form your arbitrary subset of $S$ where the sum of elements is odd by selecting any subset of $E$ and unioning that with with any subset of an odd number of elements from $O$.
Apply the rule of product and conclude.
There are $2^6$ possible subsets of $E$ and there are $binom61+binom63+binom65 = 2^5$ subsets with an odd number of elements of $O$
Alternate explanation. First choose any subset of $2,3,4,dots,12$. If the sum is currently even, then include also $1$ with it. If the sum is currently odd, then don't include $1$. Convince yourself that you cover all cases exactly once each.
answered 1 hour ago
JMoravitzJMoravitz
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That gets me $2^11=2048$ subsets. Thank you so much for your method!
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– A R
1 hour ago
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That gets me $2^11=2048$ subsets. Thank you so much for your method!
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– A R
1 hour ago
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That gets me $2^11=2048$ subsets. Thank you so much for your method!
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– A R
1 hour ago
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That gets me $2^11=2048$ subsets. Thank you so much for your method!
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– A R
1 hour ago
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Hint:
If we sum up an odd number of odd integers, and however many even ones we wish with them, then the sum is always odd.
This can be justified by considering arithmetic and congruences modulo $2$ if you want to formally see this, but I feel like it's relatively self-evident just by trying a few examples.
Thus, you need to find the number of subsets of $S$ which contain an odd number of odd integers in them.
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Hint:
If we sum up an odd number of odd integers, and however many even ones we wish with them, then the sum is always odd.
This can be justified by considering arithmetic and congruences modulo $2$ if you want to formally see this, but I feel like it's relatively self-evident just by trying a few examples.
Thus, you need to find the number of subsets of $S$ which contain an odd number of odd integers in them.
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add a comment |
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Hint:
If we sum up an odd number of odd integers, and however many even ones we wish with them, then the sum is always odd.
This can be justified by considering arithmetic and congruences modulo $2$ if you want to formally see this, but I feel like it's relatively self-evident just by trying a few examples.
Thus, you need to find the number of subsets of $S$ which contain an odd number of odd integers in them.
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Hint:
If we sum up an odd number of odd integers, and however many even ones we wish with them, then the sum is always odd.
This can be justified by considering arithmetic and congruences modulo $2$ if you want to formally see this, but I feel like it's relatively self-evident just by trying a few examples.
Thus, you need to find the number of subsets of $S$ which contain an odd number of odd integers in them.
answered 1 hour ago
Eevee TrainerEevee Trainer
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The number of such subsets is half the number of all subsets of $S$, i.e. $frac12cdot2^12=2^11$.
Let $P_e(S)$ (respectively, $P_o(S)$) be the sets of subsets of $S$, where the sum of the elements is even (respectively, odd). Consider a map $f:P_e(S)to P_o(S)$ defined as follows: for a subset $Asubseteq S$ such that $Ain P_e(S)$, let
$$
f(A)=
begincases
Asetminus1, &text if 1in A,\
Acup1, &text if 1notin A.
endcases
$$
In other words, if $1$ is in $A$, delete it; if $1$ is not in $A$, adjoin it.
This changes the parity of the sum of elements of $A$, so $f(A)in P_o(S)$. Moveover, $f$ is a bijection since $f^-1=f$ (i.e. to undo $f$, apply $f$ again). Therefore, $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$ have the same number of elements. But every subset of $S$ belongs to exactly one of $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$, so each of $P_e(S)$ and $P_o(S)$ has half the total number of subsets of $S$, i.e. $2^=2^11$.
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The number of such subsets is half the number of all subsets of $S$, i.e. $frac12cdot2^12=2^11$.
Let $P_e(S)$ (respectively, $P_o(S)$) be the sets of subsets of $S$, where the sum of the elements is even (respectively, odd). Consider a map $f:P_e(S)to P_o(S)$ defined as follows: for a subset $Asubseteq S$ such that $Ain P_e(S)$, let
$$
f(A)=
begincases
Asetminus1, &text if 1in A,\
Acup1, &text if 1notin A.
endcases
$$
In other words, if $1$ is in $A$, delete it; if $1$ is not in $A$, adjoin it.
This changes the parity of the sum of elements of $A$, so $f(A)in P_o(S)$. Moveover, $f$ is a bijection since $f^-1=f$ (i.e. to undo $f$, apply $f$ again). Therefore, $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$ have the same number of elements. But every subset of $S$ belongs to exactly one of $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$, so each of $P_e(S)$ and $P_o(S)$ has half the total number of subsets of $S$, i.e. $2^=2^11$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The number of such subsets is half the number of all subsets of $S$, i.e. $frac12cdot2^12=2^11$.
Let $P_e(S)$ (respectively, $P_o(S)$) be the sets of subsets of $S$, where the sum of the elements is even (respectively, odd). Consider a map $f:P_e(S)to P_o(S)$ defined as follows: for a subset $Asubseteq S$ such that $Ain P_e(S)$, let
$$
f(A)=
begincases
Asetminus1, &text if 1in A,\
Acup1, &text if 1notin A.
endcases
$$
In other words, if $1$ is in $A$, delete it; if $1$ is not in $A$, adjoin it.
This changes the parity of the sum of elements of $A$, so $f(A)in P_o(S)$. Moveover, $f$ is a bijection since $f^-1=f$ (i.e. to undo $f$, apply $f$ again). Therefore, $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$ have the same number of elements. But every subset of $S$ belongs to exactly one of $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$, so each of $P_e(S)$ and $P_o(S)$ has half the total number of subsets of $S$, i.e. $2^=2^11$.
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The number of such subsets is half the number of all subsets of $S$, i.e. $frac12cdot2^12=2^11$.
Let $P_e(S)$ (respectively, $P_o(S)$) be the sets of subsets of $S$, where the sum of the elements is even (respectively, odd). Consider a map $f:P_e(S)to P_o(S)$ defined as follows: for a subset $Asubseteq S$ such that $Ain P_e(S)$, let
$$
f(A)=
begincases
Asetminus1, &text if 1in A,\
Acup1, &text if 1notin A.
endcases
$$
In other words, if $1$ is in $A$, delete it; if $1$ is not in $A$, adjoin it.
This changes the parity of the sum of elements of $A$, so $f(A)in P_o(S)$. Moveover, $f$ is a bijection since $f^-1=f$ (i.e. to undo $f$, apply $f$ again). Therefore, $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$ have the same number of elements. But every subset of $S$ belongs to exactly one of $P_e(S)$ or $P_o(S)$, so each of $P_e(S)$ and $P_o(S)$ has half the total number of subsets of $S$, i.e. $2^=2^11$.
answered 44 mins ago
Alexander BursteinAlexander Burstein
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The credit for this strategy goes entirely to JMoravitz.
What I didn't realize earlier is that as long as there are an odd number of odd numbers in our subset, then we can get an odd numbers, no matter how many even numbers are in the subset. I will make the even and odd subsets separately to be $E=2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12$ and $O=1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11$. There are $6choose1 + 6choose3 + 6choose5=2^5=32$ ways to pick odd numbers. We can now pick as many evens as we wish, so we have $2^6$ ways to pick a subset. The union of the subset will just be the product of the two values, so we have $2^5 times 2^6=2^11=boxed2048$ subsets.
Thank you all so much for the help!
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The credit for this strategy goes entirely to JMoravitz.
What I didn't realize earlier is that as long as there are an odd number of odd numbers in our subset, then we can get an odd numbers, no matter how many even numbers are in the subset. I will make the even and odd subsets separately to be $E=2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12$ and $O=1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11$. There are $6choose1 + 6choose3 + 6choose5=2^5=32$ ways to pick odd numbers. We can now pick as many evens as we wish, so we have $2^6$ ways to pick a subset. The union of the subset will just be the product of the two values, so we have $2^5 times 2^6=2^11=boxed2048$ subsets.
Thank you all so much for the help!
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The credit for this strategy goes entirely to JMoravitz.
What I didn't realize earlier is that as long as there are an odd number of odd numbers in our subset, then we can get an odd numbers, no matter how many even numbers are in the subset. I will make the even and odd subsets separately to be $E=2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12$ and $O=1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11$. There are $6choose1 + 6choose3 + 6choose5=2^5=32$ ways to pick odd numbers. We can now pick as many evens as we wish, so we have $2^6$ ways to pick a subset. The union of the subset will just be the product of the two values, so we have $2^5 times 2^6=2^11=boxed2048$ subsets.
Thank you all so much for the help!
$endgroup$
The credit for this strategy goes entirely to JMoravitz.
What I didn't realize earlier is that as long as there are an odd number of odd numbers in our subset, then we can get an odd numbers, no matter how many even numbers are in the subset. I will make the even and odd subsets separately to be $E=2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12$ and $O=1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11$. There are $6choose1 + 6choose3 + 6choose5=2^5=32$ ways to pick odd numbers. We can now pick as many evens as we wish, so we have $2^6$ ways to pick a subset. The union of the subset will just be the product of the two values, so we have $2^5 times 2^6=2^11=boxed2048$ subsets.
Thank you all so much for the help!
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